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interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM
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 From:  Dorothy - view profile
Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 12:57 am 
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Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to listen.


Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


Dorothy


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 From:  Judith Harel - view profile
Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 7:09 am 
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Dear All,
I would love to but I can't because of my work.
Sorry,
Yehudith

 

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  From: Dorothy
  To: ICRR
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
  Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM

  Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to listen.


  Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


  Dorothy

 

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 From:  Judith Harel - view profile
Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 7:21 am 
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Dear All,
1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what our plans are:
- Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
- Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
- Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
- Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage we can:
- make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
- make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


3. Division of labour among is:
It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails - so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


4. Public event in TA
We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for  location - speakers?


5. What else could we do?
Best,
J

 

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Judith Harel
  To: icrr@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
  Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM

  Dear All,
  I would love to but I can't because of my work.
  Sorry,
  Yehudith
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Dorothy
    To: ICRR
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
    Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


    Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to listen.


    Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


    Dorothy

 

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 From:  jkatr...@techunix.technion.ac.il - view profile
Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 7:58 am 
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In addition to all the important points raised by Judith, I would like us to
have a clear position about accepting new members to the Committee.
If everybody who wishes to join becomes a member (which seems to be what is
happening) then we need to be clear about procedures for acting on behalf of
the Committee.
Let me be specific:
1. I realize that the gSS (shabak) has been monitoring us all the time. That
doesn't bother me. The more we keep them busy, the less time they have to
harass  Palestinians.
2. What does bother me is that we will soon be getting messages from "within the
committee" about "not washing the dirty underwear abroad", etc.
I would like to pre-empt such messages. Let's agree that they are to be
ignored.
We have already been asked to make concessions ("our government").

Finally, if membership in the Committee is open to all (Israeli citizens?,
Residents of Israel?, Residents of Israel and the OPTs? Would-be residents of
any of the above? - let's please agree on SOME guidelines) then I will
distribute it to a list of good Israelis, some of whom may not have seen our
press releases, with an EXPLICIT invitation to join.


Can we get an updated list of the current members?


I am waiting for some concensus to develop on this issue.


Jacob


Quoting Judith Harel <y_har...@netvision.net.il>:

 

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> Dear All,
> 1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what our
> plans are:
> - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
> - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
> - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
> - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?

> 2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big
> collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage
> we can:
> - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
> - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


> 3. Division of labour among is:
> It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails - so
> we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the
> activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's
> going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


> 4. Public event in TA
> We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for  location
> - speakers?


> 5. What else could we do?
> Best,
> J


>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Judith Harel
>   To: icrr@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
>   Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


>   Dear All,
>   I would love to but I can't because of my work.
>   Sorry,
>   Yehudith
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Dorothy
>     To: ICRR
>     Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
>     Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


>     Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2
> FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like
> to listen.


>     Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or
> appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


>     Dorothy

 

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 From:  Dorothy - view profile
Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 8:01 am 
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1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably have for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be very visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for free.  I think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if Tsafta would let us have one of its halls for free?  


2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our activities.  Any ideas?


3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a meeting.  She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have had no response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.  


4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's reply to Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to meet with us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what they are doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of the EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe more of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us have friends among them?  


6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.  2 of our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members will always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.  Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are now about 30 names)?  


7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an excel-file.  Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable for emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete the list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself future press releases.  


Dorothy

 

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Judith Harel
  To: icrr@googlegroups.com

  Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
  Subject: What next?


  Dear All,
  1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what our plans are:
  - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
  - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
  - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
  - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


  2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage we can:
  - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
  - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


  3. Division of labour among is:
  It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails - so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


  4. Public event in TA
  We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for  location - speakers?


  5. What else could we do?
  Best,
  J


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Judith Harel
    To: icrr@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
    Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


    Dear All,
    I would love to but I can't because of my work.
    Sorry,
    Yehudith
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Dorothy
      To: ICRR
      Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
      Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


      Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to listen.


      Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


      Dorothy

 

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 From:  Rima Merriman - view profile
Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 8:12 am 
Email:   "Rima Merriman" <rimamerri...@gmail.com>
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Dear Jacob and all:


As you come up with guidelines, would you please also consider the
relationship between the two groups (ICRR and Myrtoe).  There are a 100+
members on Myrtoe.  Most of them are victims of the Israeli policy (or
potential victims), but the list also inculdes a few ICRR members and vice
versa.
Many of those on the Myrtoe list haven't had prior experience of being
activists and so process is important for them, as well as information (i.e.,
we are learnoing as we go).


Best,
Rima


On 10/26/06, jkatr...@techunix.technion.ac.il <

 


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jkatr...@techunix.technion.ac.il> wrote:

> In addition to all the important points raised by Judith, I would like us
> to
> have a clear position about accepting new members to the Committee.
> If everybody who wishes to join becomes a member (which seems to be what
> is
> happening) then we need to be clear about procedures for acting on behalf
> of
> the Committee.
> Let me be specific:
> 1. I realize that the gSS (shabak) has been monitoring us all the time.
> That
> doesn't bother me. The more we keep them busy, the less time they have to
> harass  Palestinians.
> 2. What does bother me is that we will soon be getting messages from
> "within the
> committee" about "not washing the dirty underwear abroad", etc.
> I would like to pre-empt such messages. Let's agree that they are to be
> ignored.
> We have already been asked to make concessions ("our government").


> Finally, if membership in the Committee is open to all (Israeli citizens?,
> Residents of Israel?, Residents of Israel and the OPTs? Would-be residents
> of
> any of the above? - let's please agree on SOME guidelines) then I will
> distribute it to a list of good Israelis, some of whom may not have seen
> our
> press releases, with an EXPLICIT invitation to join.


> Can we get an updated list of the current members?


> I am waiting for some concensus to develop on this issue.


> Jacob


> Quoting Judith Harel <y_har...@netvision.net.il>:


> > Dear All,
> > 1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what
> our
> > plans are:
> > - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
> > - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
> > - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
> > - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


> > 2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a
> big
> > collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the
> collage
> > we can:
> > - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
> > - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior
> ministry


> > 3. Division of labour among is:
> > It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails
> - so
> > we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the
> > activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's
> > going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


> > 4. Public event in TA
> > We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions
> for  location
> > - speakers?


> > 5. What else could we do?
> > Best,
> > J


> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Judith Harel
> >   To: icrr@googlegroups.com
> >   Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
> >   Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


> >   Dear All,
> >   I would love to but I can't because of my work.
> >   Sorry,
> >   Yehudith
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     From: Dorothy
> >     To: ICRR
> >     Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
> >     Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


> >     Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (
> 107.2
> > FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would
> like
> > to listen.


> >     Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak
> or
> > appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


> >     Dorothy

 

--
Rima Najjar Merriman
Coordinator General
Child Rights Planning (CRP)/Policy Research Unit
Ministry of Planning
Occupied Palestinian Territory

Mobile:  0599 274 758
Office:  +970 2 297 3010/11, ext. 288 or +970 2 295-2312
Fax:  +970 2 295 2329
Web:  http://www.mop.gov.ps/en/about/crp.asp
          http://www.mop.gov.ps/ar/about/crp.asp


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 From:  jkatr...@techunix.technion.ac.il - view profile
Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 9:00 am 
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Dear Rima,

It goes without saying that there should be VERY strong ties and coordination
between the groups. Whether the right course of action is to join together, I
am not sure. I would not object to such a move but would not push for it if it
does not look the best thing to do to most members.


My own "vision" for the future (one democratic state of all it citizens) is
certainly consistent with merging together, but it would be a grave mistake to
open the TSS/OSS debate here and now.


Jacob


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> Dear Jacob and all:

> As you come up with guidelines, would you please also consider the
> relationship between the two groups (ICRR and Myrtoe).  There are a 100+
> members on Myrtoe.  Most of them are victims of the Israeli policy (or
> potential victims), but the list also inculdes a few ICRR members and vice
> versa.
> Many of those on the Myrtoe list haven't had prior experience of being
> activists and so process is important for them, as well as information
> (i.e.,
> we are learnoing as we go).


> Best,
> Rima


> On 10/26/06, jkatr...@techunix.technion.ac.il <
> jkatr...@techunix.technion.ac.il> wrote:


> > In addition to all the important points raised by Judith, I would like us
> > to
> > have a clear position about accepting new members to the Committee.
> > If everybody who wishes to join becomes a member (which seems to be what
> > is
> > happening) then we need to be clear about procedures for acting on behalf
> > of
> > the Committee.
> > Let me be specific:
> > 1. I realize that the gSS (shabak) has been monitoring us all the time.
> > That
> > doesn't bother me. The more we keep them busy, the less time they have to
> > harass  Palestinians.
> > 2. What does bother me is that we will soon be getting messages from
> > "within the
> > committee" about "not washing the dirty underwear abroad", etc.
> > I would like to pre-empt such messages. Let's agree that they are to be
> > ignored.
> > We have already been asked to make concessions ("our government").


> > Finally, if membership in the Committee is open to all (Israeli citizens?,
> > Residents of Israel?, Residents of Israel and the OPTs? Would-be residents
> > of
> > any of the above? - let's please agree on SOME guidelines) then I will
> > distribute it to a list of good Israelis, some of whom may not have seen
> > our
> > press releases, with an EXPLICIT invitation to join.


> > Can we get an updated list of the current members?


> > I am waiting for some concensus to develop on this issue.


> > Jacob


> > Quoting Judith Harel <y_har...@netvision.net.il>:


> > > Dear All,
> > > 1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what
> > our
> > > plans are:
> > > - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
> > > - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
> > > - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
> > > - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


> > > 2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a
> > big
> > > collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the
> > collage
> > > we can:
> > > - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
> > > - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior
> > ministry


> > > 3. Division of labour among is:
> > > It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails
> > - so
> > > we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the
> > > activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's
> > > going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


> > > 4. Public event in TA
> > > We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions
> > for  location
> > > - speakers?


> > > 5. What else could we do?
> > > Best,
> > > J


> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Judith Harel
> > >   To: icrr@googlegroups.com
> > >   Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
> > >   Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


> > >   Dear All,
> > >   I would love to but I can't because of my work.
> > >   Sorry,
> > >   Yehudith
> > >     ----- Original Message -----
> > >     From: Dorothy
> > >     To: ICRR
> > >     Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
> > >     Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


> > >     Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (
> > 107.2
> > > FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would
> > like
> > > to listen.


> > >     Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak
> > or
> > > appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


> > >     Dorothy


> --
> Rima Najjar Merriman
> Coordinator General
> Child Rights Planning (CRP)/Policy Research Unit
> Ministry of Planning
> Occupied Palestinian Territory


> Mobile:  0599 274 758
> Office:  +970 2 297 3010/11, ext. 288 or +970 2 295-2312
> Fax:  +970 2 295 2329
> Web:  http://www.mop.gov.ps/en/about/crp.asp
>           http://www.mop.gov.ps/ar/about/crp.asp

 

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 From:  Anat Matar - view profile
Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 9:05 am 
Email:   "Anat Matar" <m...@post.tau.ac.il>
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We can very easily organize an evening at the university. I actually think
we should do this - emphasising the difficulties to lecturers and students
in the OpT. If one of the Palestinian U presidents comes, that could be
great (Nusseibah?). Rooms cost something like 350 NIS, which is nothing - we
can pay this from our own pocket of course, or ask for donations during the
evening. If you all think we should go for this, let me know - Rachel and
myself are very experienced in organizing such evenings and the other
members of ICRR from TAU would help, and that's it. This would also be a way
of involoving the students' coalition which is a good thing in itself.
I hope I'll get some response later today from Rabinovitz' secretary.


No way Tsavta will give the hall for free.


What about an appeal to Yuli Tamir? And a meeting? I think I'm not ideal for
this (she's my colleague but I know I'm marked as insignificant radical),
but I do think that such a meeting could be significant - again, pressing
the point of the university stuff and students.


Anat


  _____  


From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Dorothy
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Cc: Sam Bahour; Basil Ayish; Jenin Shama; Anita Abdullah; Issa Sarras
Subject: Re: What next?


1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably have
for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be very
visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for free.
I think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and
perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if Tsafta
would let us have one of its halls for free?  


2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our activities.
Any ideas?


3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a meeting.
She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have had
no response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.  


4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's reply to
Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to meet with
us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what they are
doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of the
EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe more
of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us have
friends among them?  


6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.  2 of
our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members will
always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.
Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are
now about 30 names)?  


7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an excel-file.
Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable for
emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete the
list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself
future press releases.  


Dorothy

 

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----- Original Message -----
From: Judith Harel <mailto:y_har...@netvision.net.il>  
To: icrr@googlegroups.com

Cc: Sam Bahour <mailto:sbah...@palnet.com>  ; Basil Ayish
<mailto:bay...@yahoo.com>  ; Jenin Shama <mailto:j_sh...@yahoo.com>  ; Anita
Abdullah <mailto:a...@birzeit.edu>  
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
Subject: What next?


Dear All,
1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what our
plans are:
- Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
- Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
- Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
- Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big
collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage
we can:
- make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
- make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


3. Division of labour among is:
It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails -
so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the
activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's
going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


4. Public event in TA
We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for  location
- speakers?


5. What else could we do?
Best,
J


----- Original Message -----
From: Judith Harel <mailto:y_har...@netvision.net.il>  
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


Dear All,
I would love to but I can't because of my work.
Sorry,
Yehudith


----- Original Message -----
From: Dorothy <mailto:dor_n...@netvision.net.il>  
To: ICRR <mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com>  
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM)
tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to
listen.


Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or
appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


Dorothy


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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at the Tel-Aviv University CC.

 

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Hello Dorothy


Thanks for all the work you are doing and for helping us all deal with this extremey important issue.


If you allow, here are some comments


1. There is an eccess of mails circulating. It would be better to have an "editorial" committee which filters which messages to send around. Perhaps Jacob and Judit could act as such. I would willingly do, but am abroad (Italy).


2. For funds: Personally I could sent 1000SH, given an address.
                It may be useful to contact Nehama Hillman (025618178) in my name explain the issue ask for funds                 and for ideas as where to get funds.
                I could probe EU Parliament members. Italian. Less exuberant, but perhaps more effective than Luisa.
                One should approach The new Israel Fund (you never know)
                                              Janet Aviad


                A fund raising letter should be drafted and a bank acount opened.


Sorry for all the suggestions. Hope some are useful.


3. BTW here is a list of people that should be on the list:
Rita Giacaman giaca...@alquds.net
Prof Gerard Toulouse  Gerard.Toulo...@lpt.ens.fr
Prof Ayse Erzan:   e...@itu.edu.tr
Prof Cirano DeDominicis : Cirano.De-domini...@cea.fr
Dr Daniela Pierotti (RM/ERI): daniela.piero...@ericsson.com
Member EU par g.chiesa:  g.chi...@srd.it
Prof Joel Lebowitz: lebow...@math.ias.edu
Dr Khalil Mahshi: k.mah...@iiep.unesco.org
lambis kondonis: charalambos.konto...@ec.europa.eu
Olivia Zemor: olivia.ze...@wanadoo.fr
Prof Paolo Amati:  a...@bce.uniroma1.it
Prof Bruno Vitale: vitalebru1...@yahoo.co.uk


Daniel Amit


Michael Benyair: michae...@barak.net.il

 

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Dorothy
  To: icrr@googlegroups.com

  Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah ; Issa Sarras
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
  Subject: Re: What next?


  1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably have for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be very visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for free.  I think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if Tsafta would let us have one of its halls for free?  


  2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our activities.  Any ideas?


  3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a meeting.  She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have had no response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.  


  4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's reply to Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to meet with us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what they are doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of the EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


  5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe more of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us have friends among them?  


  6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.  2 of our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members will always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.  Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are now about 30 names)?  


  7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an excel-file.  Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable for emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete the list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself future press releases.  


  Dorothy


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Judith Harel
    To: icrr@googlegroups.com
    Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
    Subject: What next?


    Dear All,
    1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what our plans are:
    - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
    - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
    - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
    - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


    2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage we can:
    - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
    - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


    3. Division of labour among is:
    It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails - so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


    4. Public event in TA
    We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for  location - speakers?


    5. What else could we do?
    Best,
    J


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Judith Harel
      To: icrr@googlegroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
      Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


      Dear All,
      I would love to but I can't because of my work.
      Sorry,
      Yehudith
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Dorothy
        To: ICRR
        Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
        Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


        Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to listen.


        Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


        Dorothy

 

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This is just to support Ant's two suggestions:
1. Event at TAU with a Palestinian University President.
If we could get somebody else, I would not go for Nusseybah.

2. Pressing (PRESSING) for a meeting (MEETING) witn Yuli Tamir.


Jacob


Quoting Anat Matar <m...@post.tau.ac.il>:

 

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> We can very easily organize an evening at the university. I actually think
> we should do this - emphasising the difficulties to lecturers and students
> in the OpT. If one of the Palestinian U presidents comes, that could be
> great (Nusseibah?). Rooms cost something like 350 NIS, which is nothing - we
> can pay this from our own pocket of course, or ask for donations during the
> evening. If you all think we should go for this, let me know - Rachel and
> myself are very experienced in organizing such evenings and the other
> members of ICRR from TAU would help, and that's it. This would also be a way
> of involoving the students' coalition which is a good thing in itself.
> I hope I'll get some response later today from Rabinovitz' secretary.

> No way Tsavta will give the hall for free.


> What about an appeal to Yuli Tamir? And a meeting? I think I'm not ideal for
> this (she's my colleague but I know I'm marked as insignificant radical),
> but I do think that such a meeting could be significant - again, pressing
> the point of the university stuff and students.


> Anat


>   _____  


> From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Dorothy
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
> To: icrr@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Sam Bahour; Basil Ayish; Jenin Shama; Anita Abdullah; Issa Sarras
> Subject: Re: What next?


> 1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably have
> for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be very
> visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for free.
> I think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and
> perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if Tsafta
> would let us have one of its halls for free?  


> 2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our activities.
> Any ideas?


> 3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a meeting.
> She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have had
> no response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.  


> 4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's reply to
> Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to meet with
> us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what they are
> doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of the
> EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


> 5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe more
> of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us have
> friends among them?  


> 6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.  2 of
> our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members will
> always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.
> Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are
> now about 30 names)?  


> 7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an excel-file.
> Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable for
> emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete the
> list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself
> future press releases.  


> Dorothy


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Judith Harel <mailto:y_har...@netvision.net.il>  
> To: icrr@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Sam Bahour <mailto:sbah...@palnet.com>  ; Basil Ayish
> <mailto:bay...@yahoo.com>  ; Jenin Shama <mailto:j_sh...@yahoo.com>  ; Anita
> Abdullah <mailto:a...@birzeit.edu>  
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
> Subject: What next?


> Dear All,
> 1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what our
> plans are:
> - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
> - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
> - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
> - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


> 2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big
> collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage
> we can:
> - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
> - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


> 3. Division of labour among is:
> It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails -
> so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the
> activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's
> going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


> 4. Public event in TA
> We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for  location
> - speakers?


> 5. What else could we do?
> Best,
> J


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Judith Harel <mailto:y_har...@netvision.net.il>  
> To: icrr@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
> Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


> Dear All,
> I would love to but I can't because of my work.
> Sorry,
> Yehudith


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dorothy <mailto:dor_n...@netvision.net.il>  
> To: ICRR <mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com>  
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
> Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


> Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM)
> tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to
> listen.


> Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or
> appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


> Dorothy


> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
> at the Tel-Aviv University CC.

 

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I am all for Anat's ideas and I think they are doable. A meeting at TA university should have speakers like Shulamit Aloni and other activists, but also, significantly, people like Sam and Basil and Issa and others from their group who can present 'testimonies'. And surely heads of Palestinian universities or students who should relay facts. I think we can attract both local and foreign press.


I am willing to contact Yuli Tamir but will want at least 2 other people from other universities to join me for a meeting. It should look like a delegation. We should show concern coming from various universities.
What do you think?
R
----------
Rachel Giora
http://www.tau.ac.il/~giorar

 

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  From: Anat Matar
  To: icrr@googlegroups.com

  Cc: 'Sam Bahour' ; 'Basil Ayish' ; 'Jenin Shama' ; 'Anita Abdullah' ; 'Issa Sarras'
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:05 AM
  Subject: RE: What next?


  We can very easily organize an evening at the university. I actually think we should do this - emphasising the difficulties to lecturers and students in the OpT. If one of the Palestinian U presidents comes, that could be great (Nusseibah?). Rooms cost something like 350 NIS, which is nothing - we can pay this from our own pocket of course, or ask for donations during the evening. If you all think we should go for this, let me know - Rachel and myself are very experienced in organizing such evenings and the other members of ICRR from TAU would help, and that's it. This would also be a way of involoving the students' coalition which is a good thing in itself.
  I hope I'll get some response later today from Rabinovitz' secretary.


  No way Tsavta will give the hall for free.


  What about an appeal to Yuli Tamir? And a meeting? I think I'm not ideal for this (she's my colleague but I know I'm marked as insignificant radical), but I do think that such a meeting could be significant - again, pressing the point of the university stuff and students.


  Anat


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  From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
  To: icrr@googlegroups.com
  Cc: Sam Bahour; Basil Ayish; Jenin Shama; Anita Abdullah; Issa Sarras
  Subject: Re: What next?


  1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably have for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be very visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for free.  I think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if Tsafta would let us have one of its halls for free?  


  2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our activities.  Any ideas?


  3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a meeting.  She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have had no response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.  


  4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's reply to Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to meet with us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what they are doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of the EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


  5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe more of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us have friends among them?  


  6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.  2 of our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members will always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.  Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are now about 30 names)?  


  7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an excel-file.  Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable for emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete the list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself future press releases.  


  Dorothy


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Judith Harel
    To: icrr@googlegroups.com
    Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
    Subject: What next?


    Dear All,
    1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what our plans are:
    - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
    - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
    - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
    - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


    2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage we can:
    - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
    - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


    3. Division of labour among is:
    It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails - so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


    4. Public event in TA
    We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for  location - speakers?


    5. What else could we do?
    Best,
    J


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Judith Harel
      To: icrr@googlegroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
      Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


      Dear All,
      I would love to but I can't because of my work.
      Sorry,
      Yehudith
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Dorothy
        To: ICRR
        Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
        Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


        Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to listen.


        Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


        Dorothy


        Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
        at the Tel-Aviv University CC.

 

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I will join you if the date is set for after Nov. 13.

Jacob
running to my talk


Quoting rachel giora <rachel.gi...@gmail.com>:

 


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> I am all for Anat's ideas and I think they are doable. A meeting at TA
> university should have speakers like Shulamit Aloni and other activists, but
> also, significantly, people like Sam and Basil and Issa and others from their
> group who can present 'testimonies'. And surely heads of Palestinian
> universities or students who should relay facts. I think we can attract both
> local and foreign press.

> I am willing to contact Yuli Tamir but will want at least 2 other people from
> other universities to join me for a meeting. It should look like a
> delegation. We should show concern coming from various universities.
> What do you think?
> R
> ----------
> Rachel Giora
> http://www.tau.ac.il/~giorar


>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Anat Matar
>   To: icrr@googlegroups.com
>   Cc: 'Sam Bahour' ; 'Basil Ayish' ; 'Jenin Shama' ; 'Anita Abdullah' ; 'Issa
> Sarras'
>   Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:05 AM
>   Subject: RE: What next?


>   We can very easily organize an evening at the university. I actually think
> we should do this - emphasising the difficulties to lecturers and students in
> the OpT. If one of the Palestinian U presidents comes, that could be great
> (Nusseibah?). Rooms cost something like 350 NIS, which is nothing - we can
> pay this from our own pocket of course, or ask for donations during the
> evening. If you all think we should go for this, let me know - Rachel and
> myself are very experienced in organizing such evenings and the other members
> of ICRR from TAU would help, and that's it. This would also be a way of
> involoving the students' coalition which is a good thing in itself.
>   I hope I'll get some response later today from Rabinovitz' secretary.


>   No way Tsavta will give the hall for free.


>   What about an appeal to Yuli Tamir? And a meeting? I think I'm not ideal
> for this (she's my colleague but I know I'm marked as insignificant radical),
> but I do think that such a meeting could be significant - again, pressing the
> point of the university stuff and students.


>   Anat

 

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>   From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Dorothy
>   Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
>   To: icrr@googlegroups.com
>   Cc: Sam Bahour; Basil Ayish; Jenin Shama; Anita Abdullah; Issa Sarras
>   Subject: Re: What next?

>   1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably have
> for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be very
> visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for free.  I
> think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and
> perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if Tsafta
> would let us have one of its halls for free?  


>   2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our activities.
> Any ideas?


>   3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a meeting.
> She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have had no
> response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.  


>   4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's reply
> to Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to meet
> with us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what they
> are doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of
> the EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


>   5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe more
> of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us have
> friends among them?  


>   6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.  2
> of our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members will
> always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.  Should
> we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are now about
> 30 names)?  


>   7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an excel-file.
> Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable for
> emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete the
> list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself
> future press releases.  


>   Dorothy


>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Judith Harel
>     To: icrr@googlegroups.com
>     Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah
>     Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
>     Subject: What next?


>     Dear All,
>     1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what
> our plans are:
>     - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
>     - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
>     - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
>     - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


>     2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a
> big collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the
> collage we can:
>     - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
>     - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior
> ministry


>     3. Division of labour among is:
>     It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails
> - so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the
> activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's
> going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


>     4. Public event in TA
>     We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for
> location - speakers?


>     5. What else could we do?
>     Best,
>     J


>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Judith Harel
>       To: icrr@googlegroups.com
>       Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
>       Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


>       Dear All,
>       I would love to but I can't because of my work.
>       Sorry,
>       Yehudith
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: Dorothy
>         To: ICRR
>         Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
>         Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


>         Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio
> (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would
> like to listen.


>         Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak
> or appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


>         Dorothy


>         Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
>         at the Tel-Aviv University CC.

 

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I agree absoolutely with para. 1 and disagree with 2. If we start with
fund-raising, we will end up with an apparatus and yet another "Amuta"
yosefa

 

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From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

Daniel Amit
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:01 AM
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What next?


Hello Dorothy


Thanks for all the work you are doing and for helping us all deal with
this extremey important issue.


If you allow, here are some comments


1. There is an eccess of mails circulating. It would be better to have
an "editorial" committee which filters which messages to send around.
Perhaps Jacob and Judit could act as such. I would willingly do, but am
abroad (Italy).


2. For funds: Personally I could sent 1000SH, given an address.
                It may be useful to contact Nehama Hillman (025618178)
in my name explain the issue ask for funds                 and for ideas
as where to get funds.
                I could probe EU Parliament members. Italian. Less
exuberant, but perhaps more effective than Luisa.
                One should approach The new Israel Fund (you never know)
                                              Janet Aviad


                A fund raising letter should be drafted and a bank
acount opened.


Sorry for all the suggestions. Hope some are useful.


3. BTW here is a list of people that should be on the list:
Rita Giacaman giaca...@alquds.net
Prof Gerard Toulouse  Gerard.Toulo...@lpt.ens.fr
Prof Ayse Erzan:   e...@itu.edu.tr
Prof Cirano DeDominicis : Cirano.De-domini...@cea.fr
Dr Daniela Pierotti (RM/ERI): daniela.piero...@ericsson.com
Member EU par g.chiesa:  g.chi...@srd.it
Prof Joel Lebowitz: lebow...@math.ias.edu
Dr Khalil Mahshi: k.mah...@iiep.unesco.org
lambis kondonis: charalambos.konto...@ec.europa.eu
Olivia Zemor: olivia.ze...@wanadoo.fr
Prof Paolo Amati:  a...@bce.uniroma1.it
Prof Bruno Vitale: vitalebru1...@yahoo.co.uk


Daniel Amit


Michael Benyair: michae...@barak.net.il


----- Original Message -----
From: Dorothy <mailto:dor_n...@netvision.net.il>  
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Cc: Sam Bahour <mailto:sbah...@palnet.com>  ; Basil Ayish
<mailto:bay...@yahoo.com>  ; Jenin Shama <mailto:j_sh...@yahoo.com>  ;
Anita Abdullah <mailto:a...@birzeit.edu>  ; Issa
<mailto:issa.sar...@gmail.com> Sarras
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: What next?


1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably
have for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to
be very visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it
for free.  I think that it is important for us to have an event also in
Tel Aviv, and perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?
Wonder if Tsafta would let us have one of its halls for free?  


2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our
activities.  Any ideas?


3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a
meeting.  She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember
correctly.  Have had no response yet, although she earlier said that she
would meet with us.  


4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's
reply to Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again
to meet with us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and
see what they are doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants
to be a member of the EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on
Israel.


5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe
more of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of
us have friends among them?  


6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.
2 of our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members
will always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the
committee.  Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think
that there are now about 30 names)?  


7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an
excel-file.  Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form
that is usable for emailing, and sent out our press release to them.
I'll try to complete the list today, and will gladly forward to anyone
who will take upon him/herself future press releases.  


Dorothy


----- Original Message -----
From: Judith Harel <mailto:y_har...@netvision.net.il>  
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Cc: Sam Bahour <mailto:sbah...@palnet.com>  ; Basil Ayish
<mailto:bay...@yahoo.com>  ; Jenin Shama <mailto:j_sh...@yahoo.com>  ;
Anita  <mailto:a...@birzeit.edu> Abdullah
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
Subject: What next?


Dear All,
1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what
our plans are:
- Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
- Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
- Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
- Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a
big collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the
collage we can:
- make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
- make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior
ministry


3. Division of labour among is:
It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails
- so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the
activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's
going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


4. Public event in TA
We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for
location - speakers?


5. What else could we do?
Best,
J


----- Original Message -----
From: Judith Harel <mailto:y_har...@netvision.net.il>  
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


Dear All,
I would love to but I can't because of my work.
Sorry,
Yehudith


----- Original Message -----
From: Dorothy <mailto:dor_n...@netvision.net.il>  
To: ICRR <mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com>  
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2
FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would
like to listen.


Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or
appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


Dorothy

 

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Sounds good. And we need maybe a person from Huji.
For TAU We can ask and consult Rema Hammami, that is in case she is
interested in the topic. I am quite sure she should be. I haven't been in
touch with her for quite a while.
R
----------
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http://www.tau.ac.il/~giorar

 

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From: <jkatr...@techunix.technion.ac.il>
To: <icrr@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: TAU event + Tamir

> I will join you if the date is set for after Nov. 13.


> Jacob
> running to my talk


> Quoting rachel giora <rachel.gi...@gmail.com>:


> > I am all for Anat's ideas and I think they are doable. A meeting at TA
> > university should have speakers like Shulamit Aloni and other activists,
but
> > also, significantly, people like Sam and Basil and Issa and others from
their
> > group who can present 'testimonies'. And surely heads of Palestinian
> > universities or students who should relay facts. I think we can attract
both
> > local and foreign press.


> > I am willing to contact Yuli Tamir but will want at least 2 other people
from
> > other universities to join me for a meeting. It should look like a
> > delegation. We should show concern coming from various universities.
> > What do you think?
> > R
> > ----------
> > Rachel Giora
> > http://www.tau.ac.il/~giorar


> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Anat Matar
> >   To: icrr@googlegroups.com
> >   Cc: 'Sam Bahour' ; 'Basil Ayish' ; 'Jenin Shama' ; 'Anita Abdullah' ;
'Issa
> > Sarras'
> >   Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:05 AM
> >   Subject: RE: What next?


> >   We can very easily organize an evening at the university. I actually
think
> > we should do this - emphasising the difficulties to lecturers and
students in
> > the OpT. If one of the Palestinian U presidents comes, that could be
great
> > (Nusseibah?). Rooms cost something like 350 NIS, which is nothing - we
can
> > pay this from our own pocket of course, or ask for donations during the
> > evening. If you all think we should go for this, let me know - Rachel
and
> > myself are very experienced in organizing such evenings and the other
members
> > of ICRR from TAU would help, and that's it. This would also be a way of
> > involoving the students' coalition which is a good thing in itself.
> >   I hope I'll get some response later today from Rabinovitz' secretary.


> >   No way Tsavta will give the hall for free.


> >   What about an appeal to Yuli Tamir? And a meeting? I think I'm not
ideal
> > for this (she's my colleague but I know I'm marked as insignificant
radical),
> > but I do think that such a meeting could be significant - again,
pressing the
> > point of the university stuff and students.


> >   Anat


> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
> >   From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of
> > Dorothy
> >   Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
> >   To: icrr@googlegroups.com
> >   Cc: Sam Bahour; Basil Ayish; Jenin Shama; Anita Abdullah; Issa Sarras
> >   Subject: Re: What next?


> >   1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably
have
> > for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be
very
> > visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for
free.  I
> > think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and
> > perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if
Tsafta
> > would let us have one of its halls for free?


> >   2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our
activities.
> > Any ideas?


> >   3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a
meeting.
> > She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have
had no
> > response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.


> >   4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's
reply
> > to Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to
meet
> > with us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what
they
> > are doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member
of
> > the EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


> >   5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe
more
> > of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us
have
> > friends among them?


> >   6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.
2
> > of our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members
will
> > always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.
Should
> > we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are now
about
> > 30 names)?


> >   7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an
excel-file.
> > Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable
for
> > emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete
the
> > list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon
him/herself
> > future press releases.


> >   Dorothy


> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     From: Judith Harel
> >     To: icrr@googlegroups.com
> >     Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah
> >     Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
> >     Subject: What next?


> >     Dear All,
> >     1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of
what
> > our plans are:
> >     - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
> >     - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
> >     - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
> >     - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


> >     2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make
a
> > big collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the
> > collage we can:
> >     - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the
world
> >     - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior
> > ministry


> >     3. Division of labour among is:
> >     It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800
emails
> > - so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the
> > activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's
> > going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


> >     4. Public event in TA
> >     We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for
> > location - speakers?


> >     5. What else could we do?
> >     Best,
> >     J


> >       ----- Original Message -----
> >       From: Judith Harel
> >       To: icrr@googlegroups.com
> >       Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
> >       Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


> >       Dear All,
> >       I would love to but I can't because of my work.
> >       Sorry,
> >       Yehudith
> >         ----- Original Message -----
> >         From: Dorothy
> >         To: ICRR
> >         Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
> >         Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


> >         Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio
> > (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you
would
> > like to listen.


> >         Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to
speak
> > or appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


> >         Dorothy


> >         Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
> >         at the Tel-Aviv University CC.

 

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 From:  Daniel Amit - view profile
Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 11:33 am 
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I know that Rita Giacaman and Maha AbuDaye are very intersted, They can be contacted via Judy Blank.

 

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  From: rachel giora
  To: icrr@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:55 AM
  Subject: Re: TAU event + Tamir

  Sounds good. And we need maybe a person from Huji.
  For TAU We can ask and consult Rema Hammami, that is in case she is
  interested in the topic. I am quite sure she should be. I haven't been in
  touch with her for quite a while.
  R
  ----------
  Rachel Giora
  http://www.tau.ac.il/~giorar


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: <jkatr...@techunix.technion.ac.il>
  To: <icrr@googlegroups.com>
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:29 AM
  Subject: Re: TAU event + Tamir


  > I will join you if the date is set for after Nov. 13.


  > Jacob
  > running to my talk


  > Quoting rachel giora <rachel.gi...@gmail.com>:


  > > I am all for Anat's ideas and I think they are doable. A meeting at TA
  > > university should have speakers like Shulamit Aloni and other activists,
  but
  > > also, significantly, people like Sam and Basil and Issa and others from
  their
  > > group who can present 'testimonies'. And surely heads of Palestinian
  > > universities or students who should relay facts. I think we can attract
  both
  > > local and foreign press.


  > > I am willing to contact Yuli Tamir but will want at least 2 other people
  from
  > > other universities to join me for a meeting. It should look like a
  > > delegation. We should show concern coming from various universities.
  > > What do you think?
  > > R
  > > ----------
  > > Rachel Giora
  > > http://www.tau.ac.il/~giorar


  > >   ----- Original Message -----
  > >   From: Anat Matar
  > >   To: icrr@googlegroups.com
  > >   Cc: 'Sam Bahour' ; 'Basil Ayish' ; 'Jenin Shama' ; 'Anita Abdullah' ;
  'Issa
  > > Sarras'
  > >   Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:05 AM
  > >   Subject: RE: What next?


  > >   We can very easily organize an evening at the university. I actually
  think
  > > we should do this - emphasising the difficulties to lecturers and
  students in
  > > the OpT. If one of the Palestinian U presidents comes, that could be
  great
  > > (Nusseibah?). Rooms cost something like 350 NIS, which is nothing - we
  can
  > > pay this from our own pocket of course, or ask for donations during the
  > > evening. If you all think we should go for this, let me know - Rachel
  and
  > > myself are very experienced in organizing such evenings and the other
  members
  > > of ICRR from TAU would help, and that's it. This would also be a way of
  > > involoving the students' coalition which is a good thing in itself.
  > >   I hope I'll get some response later today from Rabinovitz' secretary.


  > >   No way Tsavta will give the hall for free.


  > >   What about an appeal to Yuli Tamir? And a meeting? I think I'm not
  ideal
  > > for this (she's my colleague but I know I'm marked as insignificant
  radical),
  > > but I do think that such a meeting could be significant - again,
  pressing the
  > > point of the university stuff and students.


  > >   Anat


  > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
  ----
  > >   From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
  Of
  > > Dorothy
  > >   Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
  > >   To: icrr@googlegroups.com
  > >   Cc: Sam Bahour; Basil Ayish; Jenin Shama; Anita Abdullah; Issa Sarras
  > >   Subject: Re: What next?


  > >   1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably
  have
  > > for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be
  very
  > > visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for
  free.  I
  > > think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and
  > > perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if
  Tsafta
  > > would let us have one of its halls for free?


  > >   2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our
  activities.
  > > Any ideas?


  > >   3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a
  meeting.
  > > She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have
  had no
  > > response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.


  > >   4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's
  reply
  > > to Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to
  meet
  > > with us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what
  they
  > > are doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member
  of
  > > the EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


  > >   5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe
  more
  > > of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us
  have
  > > friends among them?


  > >   6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.
  2
  > > of our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members
  will
  > > always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.
  Should
  > > we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are now
  about
  > > 30 names)?


  > >   7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an
  excel-file.
  > > Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable
  for
  > > emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete
  the
  > > list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon
  him/herself
  > > future press releases.


  > >   Dorothy


  > >     ----- Original Message -----
  > >     From: Judith Harel
  > >     To: icrr@googlegroups.com
  > >     Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah
  > >     Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
  > >     Subject: What next?


  > >     Dear All,
  > >     1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of
  what
  > > our plans are:
  > >     - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
  > >     - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
  > >     - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
  > >     - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


  > >     2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make
  a
  > > big collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the
  > > collage we can:
  > >     - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the
  world
  > >     - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior
  > > ministry


  > >     3. Division of labour among is:
  > >     It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800
  emails
  > > - so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the
  > > activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's
  > > going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


  > >     4. Public event in TA
  > >     We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for
  > > location - speakers?


  > >     5. What else could we do?
  > >     Best,
  > >     J


  > >       ----- Original Message -----
  > >       From: Judith Harel
  > >       To: icrr@googlegroups.com
  > >       Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
  > >       Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


  > >       Dear All,
  > >       I would love to but I can't because of my work.
  > >       Sorry,
  > >       Yehudith
  > >         ----- Original Message -----
  > >         From: Dorothy
  > >         To: ICRR
  > >         Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
  > >         Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


  > >         Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio
  > > (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you
  would
  > > like to listen.


  > >         Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to
  speak
  > > or appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


  > >         Dorothy


  > >         Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
  > >         at the Tel-Aviv University CC.

 

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 From:  Aharon Eviatar - view profile
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Normally the New Israel Fund would be a resource, but they can only fund
associations who have all the legal and accounting  framework in place.  
One way around this would be to ask an existing association to request
funding from the NIF.  If each of us puts up NIS500 we should have some
working funds.  I do not want to  think what would be involved with
going to the Registrar of Associations and getting ourselves set up with
a bookkeeping system etc.
OTOH, we are getting a bit anarchic and it is not clear who does what to
whom as the limerick says.  I think a steering committee should be set
up to coordinate things.
Arkee

 

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Daniel Amit wrote:
> Hello Dorothy

> Thanks for all the work you are doing and for helping us all deal with
> this extremey important issue.


> If you allow, here are some comments


> 1. There is an eccess of mails circulating. It would be better to have
> an "editorial" committee which filters which messages to send around.
> Perhaps Jacob and Judit could act as such. I would willingly do, but
> am abroad (Italy).


> 2. For funds: Personally I could sent 1000SH, given an address.
>                 It may be useful to contact Nehama Hillman (025618178)
> in my name explain the issue ask for funds                 and for
> ideas as where to get funds.
>                 I could probe EU Parliament members. Italian. Less
> exuberant, but perhaps more effective than Luisa.
>                 One should approach The new Israel Fund (you never know)
>                                               Janet Aviad


>                 A fund raising letter should be drafted and a bank
> acount opened.


> Sorry for all the suggestions. Hope some are useful.


> 3. BTW here is a list of people that should be on the list:
> Rita Giacaman giaca...@alquds.net <mailto:giaca...@alquds.net>
> Prof Gerard Toulouse  Gerard.Toulo...@lpt.ens.fr
> <mailto:Gerard.Toulo...@lpt.ens.fr>
> Prof Ayse Erzan:   e...@itu.edu.tr <mailto:e...@itu.edu.tr>
> Prof Cirano DeDominicis : Cirano.De-domini...@cea.fr
> <mailto:Cirano.De-domini...@cea.fr>
> Dr Daniela Pierotti (RM/ERI): daniela.piero...@ericsson.com
> <mailto:daniela.piero...@ericsson.com>
> Member EU par g.chiesa:  g.chi...@srd.it <mailto:g.chi...@srd.it>
> Prof Joel Lebowitz: lebow...@math.ias.edu <mailto:lebow...@math.ias.edu>
> Dr Khalil Mahshi: k.mah...@iiep.unesco.org
> <mailto:k.mah...@iiep.unesco.org>
> lambis kondonis: charalambos.konto...@ec.europa.eu
> <mailto:charalambos.konto...@ec.europa.eu>
> Olivia Zemor: olivia.ze...@wanadoo.fr <mailto:olivia.ze...@wanadoo.fr>
> Prof Paolo Amati:  a...@bce.uniroma1.it <mailto:a...@bce.uniroma1.it>
> Prof Bruno Vitale: vitalebru1...@yahoo.co.uk
> <mailto:vitalebru1...@yahoo.co.uk>


> Daniel Amit


> Michael Benyair: michae...@barak.net.il <mailto:michae...@barak.net.il>


>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Dorothy <mailto:dor_n...@netvision.net.il>
>     *To:* icrr@googlegroups.com <mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com>
>     *Cc:* Sam Bahour <mailto:sbah...@palnet.com> ; Basil Ayish
>     <mailto:bay...@yahoo.com> ; Jenin Shama <mailto:j_sh...@yahoo.com>
>     ; Anita Abdullah <mailto:a...@birzeit.edu> ; Issa Sarras
>     <mailto:issa.sar...@gmail.com>
>     *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
>     *Subject:* Re: What next?


>     1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can
>     probably have for free.  It's located near the university, but
>     seems to me not to be very visible. Will send out details when I
>     find out if we can have it for free.  I think that it is important
>     for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and perhaps also in
>     Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if Tsafta would
>     let us have one of its halls for free?


>     2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our
>     activities.  Any ideas?


>     3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a
>     meeting.  She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember
>     correctly.  Have had no response yet, although she earlier said
>     that she would meet with us.


>     4.  I personally think that we should not take the German
>     embassy's reply to Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them
>     again and again to meet with us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak
>     with the Finish and see what they are doing about this in the name
>     of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of the EU, so it does have
>     some sort of leverage on Israel.


>     5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.
>     Maybe more of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?
>     Does anyone of us have friends among them?


>     6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and
>     how.  2 of our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.
>     But members will always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have
>     joined the committee.  Should we have a general meeting inviting
>     everyone (I think that there are now about 30 names)?


>     7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an
>     excel-file.  Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a
>     form that is usable for emailing, and sent out our press release
>     to them.  I'll try to complete the list today, and will gladly
>     forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself future press
>     releases.


>     Dorothy


>         ----- Original Message -----
>         *From:* Judith Harel <mailto:y_har...@netvision.net.il>
>         *To:* icrr@googlegroups.com <mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com>
>         *Cc:* Sam Bahour <mailto:sbah...@palnet.com> ; Basil Ayish
>         <mailto:bay...@yahoo.com> ; Jenin Shama
>         <mailto:j_sh...@yahoo.com> ; Anita Abdullah
>         <mailto:a...@birzeit.edu>
>         *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
>         *Subject:* What next?


>         Dear All,
>         1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear
>         picture of what our plans are:
>         - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
>         - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
>         - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
>         - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


>         2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try
>         to make a big collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families
>         - once we have the collage we can:
>         - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over
>         the world
>         - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the
>         interior ministry


>         3. Division of labour among is:
>         It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about
>         1800 emails - so we need to help her and relieve her from the
>         duty to coordinate the activities of this group. We need
>         someone to keep his/her/thum on what's going on, informing us
>         and handing out tasks to do etc.


>         4. Public event in TA
>         We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions
>         for  location - speakers?


>         5. What else could we do?
>         Best,
>         J


>             ----- Original Message -----
>             *From:* Judith Harel <mailto:y_har...@netvision.net.il>
>             *To:* icrr@googlegroups.com <mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com>
>             *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
>             *Subject:* Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


>             Dear All,
>             I would love to but I can't because of my work.
>             Sorry,
>             Yehudith


>                 ----- Original Message -----
>                 *From:* Dorothy <mailto:dor_n...@netvision.net.il>
>                 *To:* ICRR <mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com>
>                 *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
>                 *Subject:* interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


>                 Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol
>                 Hashalom radio (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere
>                 between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to listen.


>                 Please let me know if you are willing to be
>                 interviewed or to speak or appear on TV, or whatever,
>                 just in case we have more requests.


>                 Dorothy


>                 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>                 This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
>                 at the Tel-Aviv University CC.

 

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I'm all for Anat's idea. That would be great, and we can advertise to the wider public, too.  We can pass the hat for funds (as has been done in the past at Ha Campus lo Shotek affairs, and whatever is missing after, make up from our own pockets.  Do you think that we could do this also at the U of Haifa and U of Ben Gurion?  
Dorothy

 

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  From: Anat Matar
  To: icrr@googlegroups.com
  Cc: 'Sam Bahour' ; 'Basil Ayish' ; 'Jenin Shama' ; 'Anita Abdullah' ; 'Issa Sarras'
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:05 AM
  Subject: RE: What next?

  We can very easily organize an evening at the university. I actually think we should do this - emphasising the difficulties to lecturers and students in the OpT. If one of the Palestinian U presidents comes, that could be great (Nusseibah?). Rooms cost something like 350 NIS, which is nothing - we can pay this from our own pocket of course, or ask for donations during the evening. If you all think we should go for this, let me know - Rachel and myself are very experienced in organizing such evenings and the other members of ICRR from TAU would help, and that's it. This would also be a way of involoving the students' coalition which is a good thing in itself.
  I hope I'll get some response later today from Rabinovitz' secretary.


  No way Tsavta will give the hall for free.


  What about an appeal to Yuli Tamir? And a meeting? I think I'm not ideal for this (she's my colleague but I know I'm marked as insignificant radical), but I do think that such a meeting could be significant - again, pressing the point of the university stuff and students.


  Anat


---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---
  From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
  To: icrr@googlegroups.com
  Cc: Sam Bahour; Basil Ayish; Jenin Shama; Anita Abdullah; Issa Sarras
  Subject: Re: What next?


  1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably have for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be very visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for free.  I think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if Tsafta would let us have one of its halls for free?  


  2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our activities.  Any ideas?


  3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a meeting.  She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have had no response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.  


  4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's reply to Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to meet with us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what they are doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of the EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


  5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe more of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us have friends among them?  


  6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.  2 of our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members will always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.  Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are now about 30 names)?  


  7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an excel-file.  Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable for emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete the list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself future press releases.  


  Dorothy


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Judith Harel
    To: icrr@googlegroups.com
    Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
    Subject: What next?


    Dear All,
    1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what our plans are:
    - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
    - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
    - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
    - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


    2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage we can:
    - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
    - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


    3. Division of labour among is:
    It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails - so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


    4. Public event in TA
    We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for  location - speakers?


    5. What else could we do?
    Best,
    J


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Judith Harel
      To: icrr@googlegroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
      Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


      Dear All,
      I would love to but I can't because of my work.
      Sorry,
      Yehudith
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Dorothy
        To: ICRR
        Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
        Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


        Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to listen.


        Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


        Dorothy


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Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 12:02 pm 
Email:   "rachel giora" <rachel.gi...@gmail.com>
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More probably in The Hebrew university,
R
----------
Rachel Giora
http://www.tau.ac.il/~giorar

 

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  From: Dorothy
  To: icrr@googlegroups.com

  Cc: 'Sam Bahour' ; 'Basil Ayish' ; 'Jenin Shama' ; 'Anita Abdullah' ; 'Issa Sarras'
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: What next?


  I'm all for Anat's idea. That would be great, and we can advertise to the wider public, too.  We can pass the hat for funds (as has been done in the past at Ha Campus lo Shotek affairs, and whatever is missing after, make up from our own pockets.  Do you think that we could do this also at the U of Haifa and U of Ben Gurion?  
  Dorothy
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Anat Matar
    To: icrr@googlegroups.com
    Cc: 'Sam Bahour' ; 'Basil Ayish' ; 'Jenin Shama' ; 'Anita Abdullah' ; 'Issa Sarras'
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:05 AM
    Subject: RE: What next?


    We can very easily organize an evening at the university. I actually think we should do this - emphasising the difficulties to lecturers and students in the OpT. If one of the Palestinian U presidents comes, that could be great (Nusseibah?). Rooms cost something like 350 NIS, which is nothing - we can pay this from our own pocket of course, or ask for donations during the evening. If you all think we should go for this, let me know - Rachel and myself are very experienced in organizing such evenings and the other members of ICRR from TAU would help, and that's it. This would also be a way of involoving the students' coalition which is a good thing in itself.
    I hope I'll get some response later today from Rabinovitz' secretary.


    No way Tsavta will give the hall for free.


    What about an appeal to Yuli Tamir? And a meeting? I think I'm not ideal for this (she's my colleague but I know I'm marked as insignificant radical), but I do think that such a meeting could be significant - again, pressing the point of the university stuff and students.


    Anat


---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-
    From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
    To: icrr@googlegroups.com
    Cc: Sam Bahour; Basil Ayish; Jenin Shama; Anita Abdullah; Issa Sarras
    Subject: Re: What next?


    1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably have for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be very visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for free.  I think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if Tsafta would let us have one of its halls for free?  


    2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our activities.  Any ideas?


    3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a meeting.  She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have had no response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.  


    4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's reply to Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to meet with us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what they are doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of the EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


    5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe more of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us have friends among them?  


    6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.  2 of our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members will always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.  Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are now about 30 names)?  


    7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an excel-file.  Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable for emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete the list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself future press releases.  


    Dorothy


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Judith Harel
      To: icrr@googlegroups.com
      Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah
      Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
      Subject: What next?


      Dear All,
      1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what our plans are:
      - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
      - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
      - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
      - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


      2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage we can:
      - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
      - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


      3. Division of labour among is:
      It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails - so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


      4. Public event in TA
      We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for  location - speakers?


      5. What else could we do?
      Best,
      J


        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Judith Harel
        To: icrr@googlegroups.com
        Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
        Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


        Dear All,
        I would love to but I can't because of my work.
        Sorry,
        Yehudith
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Dorothy
          To: ICRR
          Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
          Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


          Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to listen.


          Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


          Dorothy


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Thank you Daniel,


Your suggestions are indeed useful--very useful.  About the list, we need 2 lists--one to inform, the other an internal list used by activists on the committee in place of meetings.  I'm not sure that it should be censored.  We could open another list whose purpose would be merely to inform about our activities, ask those on the present list which of them wish to actively share in the endeavors of ICRR, leave their names on the present list, while removing other names to the inform list. What do others think?


Your offer to send 1000 sh. is very generous.  As for the New Israel Fund, I think they give only to foundations, but am not sure.  Will try to find out, unless someone else knows for certain.  Yehuda Kupferman suggested that we become a foundation--but it's a lengthy process that requires (among other things) a certified public accountant working with us.  I don't know whether we can legally solicit funds from the public without being a foundation.  I must admit to total ignorance on the financial issues, but am willing to learn, if necessary.  Yehuda Kupferman and others are better versed in them.


Would be terrific if you talk to Italian Parliament members. I was planning in asking Luisa to do that, but rather wanted to get together with her to put our heads together on how to get the cooperation of the EU, with which she has broad experience and also has stature in.  


About adding people to the list, have you consulted with those whose names you sent?  I hesitate to put anyone on the email list who has not requested to be on it.  People can, by the way, subscribe themselves to the list by sending an email to icrr-subscribe@googlegroups.com.


As for your thanks, its not deserved.  I'm not doing more (and perhaps even less) than others in the group. But support is always pleasant.  Thanks to you for your suggestions and for your generosity.


Dorothy

 

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Daniel Amit
  To: icrr@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:01 AM
  Subject: Re: What next?

  Hello Dorothy


  Thanks for all the work you are doing and for helping us all deal with this extremey important issue.


  If you allow, here are some comments


  1. There is an eccess of mails circulating. It would be better to have an "editorial" committee which filters which messages to send around. Perhaps Jacob and Judit could act as such. I would willingly do, but am abroad (Italy).


  2. For funds: Personally I could sent 1000SH, given an address.
                  It may be useful to contact Nehama Hillman (025618178) in my name explain the issue ask for funds                 and for ideas as where to get funds.
                  I could probe EU Parliament members. Italian. Less exuberant, but perhaps more effective than Luisa.
                  One should approach The new Israel Fund (you never know)
                                                Janet Aviad


                  A fund raising letter should be drafted and a bank acount opened.


  Sorry for all the suggestions. Hope some are useful.


  3. BTW here is a list of people that should be on the list:
  Rita Giacaman giaca...@alquds.net
  Prof Gerard Toulouse  Gerard.Toulo...@lpt.ens.fr
  Prof Ayse Erzan:   e...@itu.edu.tr
  Prof Cirano DeDominicis : Cirano.De-domini...@cea.fr
  Dr Daniela Pierotti (RM/ERI): daniela.piero...@ericsson.com
  Member EU par g.chiesa:  g.chi...@srd.it
  Prof Joel Lebowitz: lebow...@math.ias.edu
  Dr Khalil Mahshi: k.mah...@iiep.unesco.org
  lambis kondonis: charalambos.konto...@ec.europa.eu
  Olivia Zemor: olivia.ze...@wanadoo.fr
  Prof Paolo Amati:  a...@bce.uniroma1.it
  Prof Bruno Vitale: vitalebru1...@yahoo.co.uk


  Daniel Amit


  Michael Benyair: michae...@barak.net.il


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Dorothy
    To: icrr@googlegroups.com
    Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah ; Issa Sarras
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
    Subject: Re: What next?


    1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably have for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be very visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for free.  I think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if Tsafta would let us have one of its halls for free?  


    2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our activities.  Any ideas?


    3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a meeting.  She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have had no response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.  


    4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's reply to Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to meet with us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what they are doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of the EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


    5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe more of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us have friends among them?  


    6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.  2 of our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members will always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.  Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are now about 30 names)?  


    7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an excel-file.  Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable for emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete the list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself future press releases.  


    Dorothy


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Judith Harel
      To: icrr@googlegroups.com
      Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah
      Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
      Subject: What next?


      Dear All,
      1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what our plans are:
      - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
      - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
      - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
      - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


      2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage we can:
      - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
      - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


      3. Division of labour among is:
      It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails - so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


      4. Public event in TA
      We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for  location - speakers?


      5. What else could we do?
      Best,
      J


        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Judith Harel
        To: icrr@googlegroups.com
        Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
        Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


        Dear All,
        I would love to but I can't because of my work.
        Sorry,
        Yehudith
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Dorothy
          To: ICRR
          Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
          Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


          Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to listen.


          Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


          Dorothy

 

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 From:  Anat Matar - view profile
Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 12:35 pm 
Email:   "Anat Matar" <m...@post.tau.ac.il>
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OK so let's go for it. Rachel, Aim and myself will organize the evening in
TAU in terms of getting a room, permit, israeli speakers and contacts with
the students' organizations and then of PR within the university. Jenine -
or anyone else on the Palestinian side - would you be able to take care of
Palestinian speakers? I think it would be great if we could have two
speakers: one university president (Nabeel Kassis or Sari Nuseibah?) and one
person who is immediately affected by the Israeli policy. Could you do
something in that direction? Please let me know also about possible dates,
roughly. It'll have to be in the eveing - 18:00 to 20:00, at the campus of
Tel Aviv University. We'll cover travel expenses if we can raise the money -
we usually do.
Anat


  _____  


From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Dorothy
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:59 AM
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Cc: 'Sam Bahour'; 'Basil Ayish'; 'Jenin Shama'; 'Anita Abdullah'; 'Issa
Sarras'
Subject: Re: What next?


I'm all for Anat's idea. That would be great, and we can advertise to the
wider public, too.  We can pass the hat for funds (as has been done in the
past at Ha Campus lo Shotek affairs, and whatever is missing after, make up
from our own pockets.  Do you think that we could do this also at the U of
Haifa and U of Ben Gurion?  
Dorothy

 

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From: Anat  <mailto:m...@post.tau.ac.il> Matar
To: icrr@googlegroups.com

Cc: 'Sam Bahour' <mailto:sbah...@palnet.com>  ; 'Basil Ayish'
<mailto:bay...@yahoo.com>  ; 'Jenin Shama' <mailto:j_sh...@yahoo.com>  ;
'Anita Abdullah' <mailto:a...@birzeit.edu>  ; 'Issa
<mailto:issa.sar...@gmail.com> Sarras'
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:05 AM
Subject: RE: What next?


We can very easily organize an evening at the university. I actually think
we should do this - emphasising the difficulties to lecturers and students
in the OpT. If one of the Palestinian U presidents comes, that could be
great (Nusseibah?). Rooms cost something like 350 NIS, which is nothing - we
can pay this from our own pocket of course, or ask for donations during the
evening. If you all think we should go for this, let me know - Rachel and
myself are very experienced in organizing such evenings and the other
members of ICRR from TAU would help, and that's it. This would also be a way
of involoving the students' coalition which is a good thing in itself.
I hope I'll get some response later today from Rabinovitz' secretary.


No way Tsavta will give the hall for free.


What about an appeal to Yuli Tamir? And a meeting? I think I'm not ideal for
this (she's my colleague but I know I'm marked as insignificant radical),
but I do think that such a meeting could be significant - again, pressing
the point of the university stuff and students.


Anat


  _____  


From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Dorothy
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Cc: Sam Bahour; Basil Ayish; Jenin Shama; Anita Abdullah; Issa Sarras
Subject: Re: What next?


1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably have
for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be very
visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for free.
I think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and
perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if Tsafta
would let us have one of its halls for free?  


2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our activities.
Any ideas?


3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a meeting.
She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have had
no response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.  


4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's reply to
Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to meet with
us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what they are
doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of the
EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe more
of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us have
friends among them?  


6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.  2 of
our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members will
always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.
Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are
now about 30 names)?  


7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an excel-file.
Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable for
emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete the
list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself
future press releases.  


Dorothy


----- Original Message -----
From: Judith Harel <mailto:y_har...@netvision.net.il>  
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Cc: Sam Bahour <mailto:sbah...@palnet.com>  ; Basil Ayish
<mailto:bay...@yahoo.com>  ; Jenin Shama <mailto:j_sh...@yahoo.com>  ; Anita
Abdullah <mailto:a...@birzeit.edu>  
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
Subject: What next?


Dear All,
1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what our
plans are:
- Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
- Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
- Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
- Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big
collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage
we can:
- make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
- make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


3. Division of labour among is:
It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails -
so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the
activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's
going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


4. Public event in TA
We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for  location
- speakers?


5. What else could we do?
Best,
J


----- Original Message -----
From: Judith Harel <mailto:y_har...@netvision.net.il>  
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


Dear All,
I would love to but I can't because of my work.
Sorry,
Yehudith


----- Original Message -----
From: Dorothy <mailto:dor_n...@netvision.net.il>  
To: ICRR <mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com>  
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM)
tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to
listen.


Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or
appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


Dorothy


Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
at the Tel-Aviv University CC.


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
at the Tel-Aviv University CC.

 

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 From:  Daniel Amit - view profile
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  From: Dorothy
  To: icrr@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:20 PM
  Subject: Re: What next?

  Thank you Daniel,


  Your suggestions are indeed useful--very useful.  About the list, we need 2 lists--one to inform, the other an internal list used by activists on the committee in place of meetings.  I'm not sure that it should be censored.  We could open another list whose purpose would be merely to inform about our activities, ask those on the present list which of them wish to actively share in the endeavors of ICRR, leave their names on the present list, while removing other names to the inform list. What do others think?


  All names I mentioned are for info list.


  Your offer to send 1000 sh. is very generous.  As for the New Israel Fund, I think they give only to foundations, but am not sure.  Will try to find out, unless someone else knows for certain.  Yehuda Kupferman suggested that we become a foundation--but it's a lengthy process that requires (among other things) a certified public accountant working with us.  I don't know whether we can legally solicit funds from the public without being a foundation.  I must admit to total ignorance on the financial issues, but am willing to learn, if necessary.  Yehuda Kupferman and others are better versed in them.


  We could become part of an existing outfit, if the purpose is that of permits (anti expulsion) then perhaps Bezelm or the Aguda lezhuiot ezrach (ACRI) would agree.


  Would be terrific if you talk to Italian Parliament members. I was planning in asking Luisa to do that, but rather wanted to get together with her to put our heads together on how to get the cooperation of the EU, with which she has broad experience and also has stature in.  


  About adding people to the list, have you consulted with those whose names you sent?  I hesitate to put anyone on the email list who has not requested to be on it.  People can, by the way, subscribe themselves to the list by sending an email to icrr-subscribe@googlegroups.com.


  As mentioned above, only for info.


  As for your thanks, its not deserved.  I'm not doing more (and perhaps even less) than others in the group. But support is always pleasant.  Thanks to you for your suggestions and for your generosity.


  Its is hard to see through e-mail. But thanks anyhow.


  Dorothy


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Daniel Amit
    To: icrr@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:01 AM
    Subject: Re: What next?


    Hello Dorothy


    Thanks for all the work you are doing and for helping us all deal with this extremey important issue.


    If you allow, here are some comments


    1. There is an eccess of mails circulating. It would be better to have an "editorial" committee which filters which messages to send around. Perhaps Jacob and Judit could act as such. I would willingly do, but am abroad (Italy).


    2. For funds: Personally I could sent 1000SH, given an address.
                    It may be useful to contact Nehama Hillman (025618178) in my name explain the issue ask for funds                 and for ideas as where to get funds.
                    I could probe EU Parliament members. Italian. Less exuberant, but perhaps more effective than Luisa.
                    One should approach The new Israel Fund (you never know)
                                                  Janet Aviad


                    A fund raising letter should be drafted and a bank acount opened.


    Sorry for all the suggestions. Hope some are useful.


    3. BTW here is a list of people that should be on the list:
    Rita Giacaman giaca...@alquds.net
    Prof Gerard Toulouse  Gerard.Toulo...@lpt.ens.fr
    Prof Ayse Erzan:   e...@itu.edu.tr
    Prof Cirano DeDominicis : Cirano.De-domini...@cea.fr
    Dr Daniela Pierotti (RM/ERI): daniela.piero...@ericsson.com
    Member EU par g.chiesa:  g.chi...@srd.it
    Prof Joel Lebowitz: lebow...@math.ias.edu
    Dr Khalil Mahshi: k.mah...@iiep.unesco.org
    lambis kondonis: charalambos.konto...@ec.europa.eu
    Olivia Zemor: olivia.ze...@wanadoo.fr
    Prof Paolo Amati:  a...@bce.uniroma1.it
    Prof Bruno Vitale: vitalebru1...@yahoo.co.uk


    Daniel Amit


    Michael Benyair: michae...@barak.net.il


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Dorothy
      To: icrr@googlegroups.com
      Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah ; Issa Sarras
      Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
      Subject: Re: What next?


      1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably have for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be very visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for free.  I think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if Tsafta would let us have one of its halls for free?  


      2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our activities.  Any ideas?


      3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a meeting.  She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have had no response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.  


      4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's reply to Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to meet with us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what they are doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of the EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


      5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe more of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us have friends among them?  


      6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.  2 of our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members will always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.  Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are now about 30 names)?  


      7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an excel-file.  Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable for emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete the list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself future press releases.  


      Dorothy


        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Judith Harel
        To: icrr@googlegroups.com
        Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah
        Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
        Subject: What next?


        Dear All,
        1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what our plans are:
        - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
        - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
        - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
        - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


        2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage we can:
        - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
        - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


        3. Division of labour among is:
        It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails - so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


        4. Public event in TA
        We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for  location - speakers?


        5. What else could we do?
        Best,
        J


          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Judith Harel
          To: icrr@googlegroups.com
          Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
          Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


          Dear All,
          I would love to but I can't because of my work.
          Sorry,
          Yehudith
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Dorothy
            To: ICRR
            Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
            Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


            Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to listen.


            Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


            Dorothy

 

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Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 2:30 pm 
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Dear Dorothy,
As soon as we get ourselves oriented (we arrived only last week in Israel),
Bernie Avishai and I would be happy to help write articles on the subject
for the press in the US--two Jewish journals that we have connections to are
the 'Forward' and 'Tikkun,' and Bernie has some connections with the Boston
Globe. If you have a package of supporting material please send it to us at:
Sidra Ezrahi
11 Uzzia
Jerusalem 93143

Thanks again for your efforts, Sidra

 


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>From: Dorothy <dor_n...@netvision.net.il>
>Reply-To: icrr@googlegroups.com
>To: ICRR <icrr@googlegroups.com>
>Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM
>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:57:15 +0200

>Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM)
>tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to
>listen.


>Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or
>appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


>Dorothy

 

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I don't think that the NIF gives only to institutions.  But I do believe
they only support cultural and social projects within Israel itself, so this
may not fit. I could find out easily; a friend of mine is one of the
executives of the Washington office.Anyway, send me whatever brief statement
you have for the press and I'll forward it. Sidra

 

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>From: "Daniel Amit" <Daniel.A...@roma1.infn.it>
>Reply-To: icrr@googlegroups.com
>To: <icrr@googlegroups.com>
>Subject: Re: What  next?
>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:49:06 +0200

>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Dorothy
>   To: icrr@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:20 PM
>   Subject: Re: What next?


>   Thank you Daniel,


>   Your suggestions are indeed useful--very useful.  About the list, we
>need 2 lists--one to inform, the other an internal list used by activists
>on the committee in place of meetings.  I'm not sure that it should be
>censored.  We could open another list whose purpose would be merely to
>inform about our activities, ask those on the present list which of them
>wish to actively share in the endeavors of ICRR, leave their names on the
>present list, while removing other names to the inform list. What do others
>think?


>   All names I mentioned are for info list.


>   Your offer to send 1000 sh. is very generous.  As for the New Israel
>Fund, I think they give only to foundations, but am not sure.  Will try to
>find out, unless someone else knows for certain.  Yehuda Kupferman
>suggested that we become a foundation--but it's a lengthy process that
>requires (among other things) a certified public accountant working with
>us.  I don't know whether we can legally solicit funds from the public
>without being a foundation.  I must admit to total ignorance on the
>financial issues, but am willing to learn, if necessary.  Yehuda Kupferman
>and others are better versed in them.


>   We could become part of an existing outfit, if the purpose is that of
>permits (anti expulsion) then perhaps Bezelm or the Aguda lezhuiot ezrach
>(ACRI) would agree.


>   Would be terrific if you talk to Italian Parliament members. I was
>planning in asking Luisa to do that, but rather wanted to get together with
>her to put our heads together on how to get the cooperation of the EU, with
>which she has broad experience and also has stature in.


>   About adding people to the list, have you consulted with those whose
>names you sent?  I hesitate to put anyone on the email list who has not
>requested to be on it.  People can, by the way, subscribe themselves to the
>list by sending an email to icrr-subscribe@googlegroups.com.


>   As mentioned above, only for info.


>   As for your thanks, its not deserved.  I'm not doing more (and perhaps
>even less) than others in the group. But support is always pleasant.  
>Thanks to you for your suggestions and for your generosity.


>   Its is hard to see through e-mail. But thanks anyhow.


>   Dorothy


>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Daniel Amit
>     To: icrr@googlegroups.com
>     Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:01 AM
>     Subject: Re: What next?


>     Hello Dorothy


>     Thanks for all the work you are doing and for helping us all deal with
>this extremey important issue.


>     If you allow, here are some comments


>     1. There is an eccess of mails circulating. It would be better to have
>an "editorial" committee which filters which messages to send around.
>Perhaps Jacob and Judit could act as such. I would willingly do, but am
>abroad (Italy).


>     2. For funds: Personally I could sent 1000SH, given an address.
>                     It may be useful to contact Nehama Hillman (025618178)
>in my name explain the issue ask for funds                 and for ideas as
>where to get funds.
>                     I could probe EU Parliament members. Italian. Less
>exuberant, but perhaps more effective than Luisa.
>                     One should approach The new Israel Fund (you never
>know)
>                                                   Janet Aviad


>                     A fund raising letter should be drafted and a bank
>acount opened.


>     Sorry for all the suggestions. Hope some are useful.


>     3. BTW here is a list of people that should be on the list:
>     Rita Giacaman giaca...@alquds.net
>     Prof Gerard Toulouse  Gerard.Toulo...@lpt.ens.fr
>     Prof Ayse Erzan:   e...@itu.edu.tr
>     Prof Cirano DeDominicis : Cirano.De-domini...@cea.fr
>     Dr Daniela Pierotti (RM/ERI): daniela.piero...@ericsson.com
>     Member EU par g.chiesa:  g.chi...@srd.it
>     Prof Joel Lebowitz: lebow...@math.ias.edu
>     Dr Khalil Mahshi: k.mah...@iiep.unesco.org
>     lambis kondonis: charalambos.konto...@ec.europa.eu
>     Olivia Zemor: olivia.ze...@wanadoo.fr
>     Prof Paolo Amati:  a...@bce.uniroma1.it
>     Prof Bruno Vitale: vitalebru1...@yahoo.co.uk


>     Daniel Amit


>     Michael Benyair: michae...@barak.net.il


>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Dorothy
>       To: icrr@googlegroups.com
>       Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah ; Issa
>Sarras
>       Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
>       Subject: Re: What next?


>       1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can
>probably have for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me
>not to be very visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can
>have it for free.  I think that it is important for us to have an event
>also in Tel Aviv, and perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you
>think?  Wonder if Tsafta would let us have one of its halls for free?


>       2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our
>activities.  Any ideas?


>       3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a
>meeting.  She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  
>Have had no response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet
>with us.


>       4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's
>reply to Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to
>meet with us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what
>they are doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a
>member of the EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


>       5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  
>Maybe more of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone
>of us have friends among them?


>       6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and
>how.  2 of our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But
>members will always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the
>committee.  Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think
>that there are now about 30 names)?


>       7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an
>excel-file.  Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that
>is usable for emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try
>to complete the list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take
>upon him/herself future press releases.


>       Dorothy


>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: Judith Harel
>         To: icrr@googlegroups.com
>         Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah
>         Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
>         Subject: What next?


>         Dear All,
>         1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of
>what our plans are:
>         - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
>         - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
>         - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
>         - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


>         2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to
>make a big collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have
>the collage we can:
>         - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the
>world
>         - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior
>ministry


>         3. Division of labour among is:
>         It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800
>emails - so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate
>the activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on
>what's going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


>         4. Public event in TA
>         We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for
>  location - speakers?


>         5. What else could we do?
>         Best,
>         J


>           ----- Original Message -----
>           From: Judith Harel
>           To: icrr@googlegroups.com
>           Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
>           Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


>           Dear All,
>           I would love to but I can't because of my work.
>           Sorry,
>           Yehudith
>             ----- Original Message -----
>             From: Dorothy
>             To: ICRR
>             Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
>             Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


>             Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom
>radio (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case
>you would like to listen.


>             Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to
>speak or appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


>             Dorothy

 

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סביר מאד להניח שפלסטיני מהשטחים לא יוכל לתל אביב.


ניצה אמינוב


  _____  


From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anat
Matar
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:36 PM
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Cc: 'Sam Bahour'; 'Basil Ayish'; 'Jenin Shama'; 'Anita Abdullah'; 'Issa
Sarras'
Subject: RE: What next?


OK so let's go for it. Rachel, Aim and myself will organize the evening in
TAU in terms of getting a room, permit, israeli speakers and contacts with
the students' organizations and then of PR within the university. Jenine -
or anyone else on the Palestinian side - would you be able to take care of
Palestinian speakers? I think it would be great if we could have two
speakers: one university president (Nabeel Kassis or Sari Nuseibah?) and one
person who is immediately affected by the Israeli policy. Could you do
something in that direction? Please let me know also about possible dates,
roughly. It'll have to be in the eveing - 18:00 to 20:00, at the campus of
Tel Aviv University. We'll cover travel expenses if we can raise the money -
we usually do.


Anat


  _____  


From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Dorothy
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:59 AM
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Cc: 'Sam Bahour'; 'Basil Ayish'; 'Jenin Shama'; 'Anita Abdullah'; 'Issa
Sarras'
Subject: Re: What next?


I'm all for Anat's idea. That would be great, and we can advertise to the
wider public, too.  We can pass the hat for funds (as has been done in the
past at Ha Campus lo Shotek affairs, and whatever is missing after, make up
from our own pockets.  Do you think that we could do this also at the U of
Haifa and U of Ben Gurion?  


Dorothy

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Anat Matar <mailto:m...@post.tau.ac.il>  


To: icrr@googlegroups.com


Cc: 'Sam Bahour' <mailto:sbah...@palnet.com>  ; 'Basil Ayish'
<mailto:bay...@yahoo.com>  ; 'Jenin Shama' <mailto:j_sh...@yahoo.com>  ;
'Anita Abdullah' <mailto:a...@birzeit.edu>  ; 'Issa
<mailto:issa.sar...@gmail.com>  Sarras'


Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:05 AM


Subject: RE: What next?


We can very easily organize an evening at the university. I actually think
we should do this - emphasising the difficulties to lecturers and students
in the OpT. If one of the Palestinian U presidents comes, that could be
great (Nusseibah?). Rooms cost something like 350 NIS, which is nothing - we
can pay this from our own pocket of course, or ask for donations during the
evening. If you all think we should go for this, let me know - Rachel and
myself are very experienced in organizing such evenings and the other
members of ICRR from TAU would help, and that's it. This would also be a way
of involoving the students' coalition which is a good thing in itself.


I hope I'll get some response later today from Rabinovitz' secretary.


No way Tsavta will give the hall for free.


What about an appeal to Yuli Tamir? And a meeting? I think I'm not ideal for
this (she's my colleague but I know I'm marked as insignificant radical),
but I do think that such a meeting could be significant - again, pressing
the point of the university stuff and students.


Anat


  _____  


From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Dorothy
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Cc: Sam Bahour; Basil Ayish; Jenin Shama; Anita Abdullah; Issa Sarras
Subject: Re: What next?


1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably have
for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be very
visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for free.
I think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and
perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if Tsafta
would let us have one of its halls for free?  


2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our activities.
Any ideas?


3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a meeting.
She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have had
no response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.  


4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's reply to
Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to meet with
us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what they are
doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of the
EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe more
of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us have
friends among them?  


6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.  2 of
our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members will
always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.
Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are
now about 30 names)?  


7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an excel-file.
Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable for
emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete the
list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself
future press releases.  


Dorothy


----- Original Message -----


From: Judith <mailto:y_har...@netvision.net.il>  Harel


To: icrr@googlegroups.com


Cc: Sam Bahour <mailto:sbah...@palnet.com>  ; Basil Ayish
<mailto:bay...@yahoo.com>  ; Jenin Shama <mailto:j_sh...@yahoo.com>  ; Anita
Abdullah <mailto:a...@birzeit.edu>  


Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM


Subject: What next?


Dear All,


1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what our
plans are:


- Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?


- Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?


- Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?


- Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big
collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage
we can:
- make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world


- make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


3. Division of labour among is:


It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails -
so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the
activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's
going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


4. Public event in TA


We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for  location
- speakers?


5. What else could we do?


Best,


J


----- Original Message -----


From: Judith <mailto:y_har...@netvision.net.il>  Harel


To: icrr@googlegroups.com


Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM


Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


Dear All,


I would love to but I can't because of my work.


Sorry,


Yehudith


----- Original Message -----


From: Dorothy <mailto:dor_n...@netvision.net.il>  


To: ICRR <mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com>  


Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM


Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM)
tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to
listen.


Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or
appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


Dorothy


Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
at the Tel-Aviv University CC.


Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
at the Tel-Aviv University CC.

 

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Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 5:01 pm 
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זה המזל, שתושבי ירושלים יכולים, יש להם תעודה כחולה... לכן סרי נוסייבה יכול.
וגם, ומובנת האירוניה, נושאי הדרכונים הזרים שתושבותם בסכנה.
לגבי אחרים, אפשר להגיש בקשה, ובהחלט ייתכנו אישורים, אבל חבל על הטררם, כי יש
דוברים פוטנציאליים מהסוג האמור.


  _____  


From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Nitza Aminov
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:36 PM
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What next?


סביר מאד להניח שפלסטיני מהשטחים לא יוכל לתל אביב.


ניצה אמינוב


  _____  


From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anat
Matar
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:36 PM
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Cc: 'Sam Bahour'; 'Basil Ayish'; 'Jenin Shama'; 'Anita Abdullah'; 'Issa
Sarras'
Subject: RE: What next?


OK so let's go for it. Rachel, Aim and myself will organize the evening in
TAU in terms of getting a room, permit, israeli speakers and contacts with
the students' organizations and then of PR within the university. Jenine -
or anyone else on the Palestinian side - would you be able to take care of
Palestinian speakers? I think it would be great if we could have two
speakers: one university president (Nabeel Kassis or Sari Nuseibah?) and one
person who is immediately affected by the Israeli policy. Could you do
something in that direction? Please let me know also about possible dates,
roughly. It'll have to be in the eveing - 18:00 to 20:00, at the campus of
Tel Aviv University. We'll cover travel expenses if we can raise the money -
we usually do.


Anat


  _____  


From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Dorothy
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:59 AM
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Cc: 'Sam Bahour'; 'Basil Ayish'; 'Jenin Shama'; 'Anita Abdullah'; 'Issa
Sarras'
Subject: Re: What next?


I'm all for Anat's idea. That would be great, and we can advertise to the
wider public, too.  We can pass the hat for funds (as has been done in the
past at Ha Campus lo Shotek affairs, and whatever is missing after, make up
from our own pockets.  Do you think that we could do this also at the U of
Haifa and U of Ben Gurion?  


Dorothy
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Terrific.  All we need to know is the date.
Dorothy

 

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  From: Anat Matar
  To: icrr@googlegroups.com
  Cc: 'Sam Bahour' ; 'Basil Ayish' ; 'Jenin Shama' ; 'Anita Abdullah' ; 'Issa Sarras'
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:35 PM
  Subject: RE: What next?

  OK so let's go for it. Rachel, Aim and myself will organize the evening in TAU in terms of getting a room, permit, israeli speakers and contacts with the students' organizations and then of PR within the university. Jenine - or anyone else on the Palestinian side - would you be able to take care of Palestinian speakers? I think it would be great if we could have two speakers: one university president (Nabeel Kassis or Sari Nuseibah?) and one person who is immediately affected by the Israeli policy. Could you do something in that direction? Please let me know also about possible dates, roughly. It'll have to be in the eveing - 18:00 to 20:00, at the campus of Tel Aviv University. We'll cover travel expenses if we can raise the money - we usually do.
  Anat


---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---
  From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:59 AM
  To: icrr@googlegroups.com
  Cc: 'Sam Bahour'; 'Basil Ayish'; 'Jenin Shama'; 'Anita Abdullah'; 'Issa Sarras'
  Subject: Re: What next?


  I'm all for Anat's idea. That would be great, and we can advertise to the wider public, too.  We can pass the hat for funds (as has been done in the past at Ha Campus lo Shotek affairs, and whatever is missing after, make up from our own pockets.  Do you think that we could do this also at the U of Haifa and U of Ben Gurion?  
  Dorothy
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Anat Matar
    To: icrr@googlegroups.com
    Cc: 'Sam Bahour' ; 'Basil Ayish' ; 'Jenin Shama' ; 'Anita Abdullah' ; 'Issa Sarras'
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:05 AM
    Subject: RE: What next?


    We can very easily organize an evening at the university. I actually think we should do this - emphasising the difficulties to lecturers and students in the OpT. If one of the Palestinian U presidents comes, that could be great (Nusseibah?). Rooms cost something like 350 NIS, which is nothing - we can pay this from our own pocket of course, or ask for donations during the evening. If you all think we should go for this, let me know - Rachel and myself are very experienced in organizing such evenings and the other members of ICRR from TAU would help, and that's it. This would also be a way of involoving the students' coalition which is a good thing in itself.
    I hope I'll get some response later today from Rabinovitz' secretary.


    No way Tsavta will give the hall for free.


    What about an appeal to Yuli Tamir? And a meeting? I think I'm not ideal for this (she's my colleague but I know I'm marked as insignificant radical), but I do think that such a meeting could be significant - again, pressing the point of the university stuff and students.


    Anat


---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-
    From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
    To: icrr@googlegroups.com
    Cc: Sam Bahour; Basil Ayish; Jenin Shama; Anita Abdullah; Issa Sarras
    Subject: Re: What next?


    1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably have for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be very visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for free.  I think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if Tsafta would let us have one of its halls for free?  


    2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our activities.  Any ideas?


    3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a meeting.  She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have had no response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.  


    4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's reply to Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to meet with us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what they are doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of the EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


    5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe more of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us have friends among them?  


    6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.  2 of our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members will always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.  Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are now about 30 names)?  


    7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an excel-file.  Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable for emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete the list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself future press releases.  


    Dorothy


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Judith Harel
      To: icrr@googlegroups.com
      Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah
      Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
      Subject: What next?


      Dear All,
      1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what our plans are:
      - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
      - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
      - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
      - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


      2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage we can:
      - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
      - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


      3. Division of labour among is:
      It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails - so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


      4. Public event in TA
      We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for  location - speakers?


      5. What else could we do?
      Best,
      J


        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Judith Harel
        To: icrr@googlegroups.com
        Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
        Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


        Dear All,
        I would love to but I can't because of my work.
        Sorry,
        Yehudith
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Dorothy
          To: ICRR
          Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
          Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


          Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to listen.


          Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


          Dorothy


          Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
          at the Tel-Aviv University CC.


    Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
    at the Tel-Aviv University CC.

 

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Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 5:24 pm 
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Dear Dorothy and all:


I am not so sure Nusseibeh is the best choice to represent the campiagn on
this.  With Nabeel Kassis, would he need a permit to get over to TAU,
assuming he agrees to do this?  Have you considered a video conference
connected with BZU and other Palestinian universities perhaps?


Best,
Rima


On 10/26/06, Dorothy <dor_n...@netvision.net.il> wrote:

 


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>  Terrific.  All we need to know is the date.
> Dorothy


> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Anat Matar <m...@post.tau.ac.il>
> *To:* icrr@googlegroups.com
> *Cc:* 'Sam Bahour' <sbah...@palnet.com> ; 'Basil Ayish' <bay...@yahoo.com>; 'Jenin
> Shama' <j_sh...@yahoo.com> ; 'Anita Abdullah' <a...@birzeit.edu> ; 'Issa
> Sarras' <issa.sar...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:35 PM
> *Subject:* RE: What next?


>  OK so let's go for it. Rachel, Aim and myself will organize the evening
> in TAU in terms of getting a room, permit, israeli speakers and contacts
> with the students' organizations and then of PR within the university.
> Jenine - or anyone else on the Palestinian side - would you be able to take
> care of Palestinian speakers? I think it would be great if we could have two
> speakers: one university president (Nabeel Kassis or Sari Nuseibah?) and one
> person who is immediately affected by the Israeli policy. Could you do
> something in that direction? Please let me know also about possible dates,
> roughly. It'll have to be in the eveing - 18:00 to 20:00, at the campus of
> Tel Aviv University. We'll cover travel expenses if we can raise the money -
> we usually do.
> Anat


>  ------------------------------
> *From:* icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of
> *Dorothy
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:59 AM
> *To:* icrr@googlegroups.com
> *Cc:* 'Sam Bahour'; 'Basil Ayish'; 'Jenin Shama'; 'Anita Abdullah'; 'Issa
> Sarras'
> *Subject:* Re: What next?


>  I'm all for Anat's idea. That would be great, and we can advertise to the
> wider public, too.  We can pass the hat for funds (as has been done in the
> past at Ha Campus lo Shotek affairs, and whatever is missing after, make up
> from our own pockets.  Do you think that we could do this also at the U of
> Haifa and U of Ben Gurion?
> Dorothy


> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Anat Matar <m...@post.tau.ac.il>
> *To:* icrr@googlegroups.com
> *Cc:* 'Sam Bahour' <sbah...@palnet.com> ; 'Basil Ayish' <bay...@yahoo.com>; 'Jenin
> Shama' <j_sh...@yahoo.com> ; 'Anita Abdullah' <a...@birzeit.edu> ; 'Issa
> Sarras' <issa.sar...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:05 AM
> *Subject:* RE: What next?


> We can very easily organize an evening at the university. I actually think
> we should do this - emphasising the difficulties to lecturers and students
> in the OpT. If one of the Palestinian U presidents comes, that could be
> great (Nusseibah?). Rooms cost something like 350 NIS, which is nothing - we
> can pay this from our own pocket of course, or ask for donations during the
> evening. If you all think we should go for this, let me know - Rachel and
> myself are very experienced in organizing such evenings and the other
> members of ICRR from TAU would help, and that's it. This would also be a way
> of involoving the students' coalition which is a good thing in itself.
> I hope I'll get some response later today from Rabinovitz' secretary.


> No way Tsavta will give the hall for free.


> What about an appeal to Yuli Tamir? And a meeting? I think I'm not ideal
> for this (she's my colleague but I know I'm marked as insignificant
> radical), but I do think that such a meeting could be significant - again,
> pressing the point of the university stuff and students.


> Anat


>  ------------------------------
> *From:* icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of
> *Dorothy
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
> *To:* icrr@googlegroups.com
> *Cc:* Sam Bahour; Basil Ayish; Jenin Shama; Anita Abdullah; Issa Sarras
> *Subject:* Re: What next?


>  1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably
> have for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be
> very visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for
> free.  I think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel
> Aviv, and perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder
> if Tsafta would let us have one of its halls for free?


> 2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our activities.
> Any ideas?


> 3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a
> meeting.  She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.
> Have had no response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with
> us.


> 4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's reply
> to Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to meet
> with us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what they
> are doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of
> the EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


> 5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe more
> of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us have
> friends among them?


> 6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.  2
> of our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members will
> always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.
> Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are
> now about 30 names)?


> 7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an excel-file.
> Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable for
> emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete the
> list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself
> future press releases.


> Dorothy


> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Judith Harel <y_har...@netvision.net.il>
> *To:* icrr@googlegroups.com
> *Cc:* Sam Bahour <sbah...@palnet.com> ; Basil Ayish <bay...@yahoo.com> ; Jenin
> Shama <j_sh...@yahoo.com> ; Anita Abdullah <a...@birzeit.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
> *Subject:* What next?


> Dear All,
> 1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what
> our plans are:
> - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
> - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
> - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
> - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


> 2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big
> collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage
> we can:
> - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
> - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


> 3. Division of labour among is:
> It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails -
> so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the
> activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's
> going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


> 4. Public event in TA
> We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for
> location - speakers?


> 5. What else could we do?
> Best,
> J


> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Judith Harel <y_har...@netvision.net.il>
> *To:* icrr@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
> *Subject:* Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


> Dear All,
> I would love to but I can't because of my work.
> Sorry,
> Yehudith


> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Dorothy <dor_n...@netvision.net.il>
> *To:* ICRR <icrr@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
> *Subject:* interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


> Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM)
> tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to
> listen.


> Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or
> appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


> Dorothy


> Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
> at the Tel-Aviv University CC.


> Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
> at the Tel-Aviv University CC.

 

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Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 5:28 pm 
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Palestinians who have foreign passports can come to Israel, and permits have been given to Palestinians who have been invited to speak at conferences.
Dorothy

 

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Nitza Aminov
  To: icrr@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:35 PM
  Subject: RE: What next?

  סביר מאד להניח שפלסטיני מהשטחים לא יוכל לתל אביב.


  ניצה אמינוב


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  From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anat Matar
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:36 PM
  To: icrr@googlegroups.com
  Cc: 'Sam Bahour'; 'Basil Ayish'; 'Jenin Shama'; 'Anita Abdullah'; 'Issa Sarras'
  Subject: RE: What next?


  OK so let's go for it. Rachel, Aim and myself will organize the evening in TAU in terms of getting a room, permit, israeli speakers and contacts with the students' organizations and then of PR within the university. Jenine - or anyone else on the Palestinian side - would you be able to take care of Palestinian speakers? I think it would be great if we could have two speakers: one university president (Nabeel Kassis or Sari Nuseibah?) and one person who is immediately affected by the Israeli policy. Could you do something in that direction? Please let me know also about possible dates, roughly. It'll have to be in the eveing - 18:00 to 20:00, at the campus of Tel Aviv University. We'll cover travel expenses if we can raise the money - we usually do.


  Anat


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  From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:59 AM
  To: icrr@googlegroups.com
  Cc: 'Sam Bahour'; 'Basil Ayish'; 'Jenin Shama'; 'Anita Abdullah'; 'Issa Sarras'
  Subject: Re: What next?


  I'm all for Anat's idea. That would be great, and we can advertise to the wider public, too.  We can pass the hat for funds (as has been done in the past at Ha Campus lo Shotek affairs, and whatever is missing after, make up from our own pockets.  Do you think that we could do this also at the U of Haifa and U of Ben Gurion?  


  Dorothy


    ----- Original Message -----


    From: Anat Matar


    To: icrr@googlegroups.com


    Cc: 'Sam Bahour' ; 'Basil Ayish' ; 'Jenin Shama' ; 'Anita Abdullah' ; 'Issa Sarras'


    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:05 AM


    Subject: RE: What next?


    We can very easily organize an evening at the university. I actually think we should do this - emphasising the difficulties to lecturers and students in the OpT. If one of the Palestinian U presidents comes, that could be great (Nusseibah?). Rooms cost something like 350 NIS, which is nothing - we can pay this from our own pocket of course, or ask for donations during the evening. If you all think we should go for this, let me know - Rachel and myself are very experienced in organizing such evenings and the other members of ICRR from TAU would help, and that's it. This would also be a way of involoving the students' coalition which is a good thing in itself.


    I hope I'll get some response later today from Rabinovitz' secretary.


    No way Tsavta will give the hall for free.


    What about an appeal to Yuli Tamir? And a meeting? I think I'm not ideal for this (she's my colleague but I know I'm marked as insignificant radical), but I do think that such a meeting could be significant - again, pressing the point of the university stuff and students.


    Anat


---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-


    From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
    To: icrr@googlegroups.com
    Cc: Sam Bahour; Basil Ayish; Jenin Shama; Anita Abdullah; Issa Sarras
    Subject: Re: What next?


    1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably have for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be very visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for free.  I think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if Tsafta would let us have one of its halls for free?  


    2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our activities.  Any ideas?


    3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a meeting.  She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have had no response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.  


    4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's reply to Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to meet with us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what they are doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of the EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


    5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe more of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us have friends among them?  


    6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.  2 of our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members will always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.  Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are now about 30 names)?  


    7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an excel-file.  Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable for emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete the list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself future press releases.  


    Dorothy


      ----- Original Message -----


      From: Judith Harel


      To: icrr@googlegroups.com


      Cc: Sam Bahour ; Basil Ayish ; Jenin Shama ; Anita Abdullah


      Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM


      Subject: What next?


      Dear All,


      1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what our plans are:


      - Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?


      - Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?


      - Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?


      - Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


      2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage we can:
      - make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world


      - make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


      3. Division of labour among is:


      It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails - so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


      4. Public event in TA


      We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for  location - speakers?


      5. What else could we do?


      Best,


      J


        ----- Original Message -----


        From: Judith Harel


        To: icrr@googlegroups.com


        Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM


        Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


        Dear All,


        I would love to but I can't because of my work.


        Sorry,


        Yehudith


          ----- Original Message -----


          From: Dorothy


          To: ICRR


          Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM


          Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


          Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM) tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to listen.


          Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


          Dorothy


          Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
          at the Tel-Aviv University CC.


    Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
    at the Tel-Aviv University CC.

 

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Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 5:29 pm 
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We depend mainly on our Palestinian friends here - the date will be decided
upon according to their convenience.
So Jenin? Anita? Basil?...


  _____  


From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Dorothy
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:12 PM
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Cc: 'Sam Bahour'; 'Basil Ayish'; 'Jenin Shama'; 'Anita Abdullah'; 'Issa
Sarras'
Subject: Re: What next?


Terrific.  All we need to know is the date.
Dorothy

 

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----- Original Message -----
From: Anat  <mailto:m...@post.tau.ac.il> Matar
To: icrr@googlegroups.com

Cc: 'Sam Bahour' <mailto:sbah...@palnet.com>  ; 'Basil Ayish'
<mailto:bay...@yahoo.com>  ; 'Jenin Shama' <mailto:j_sh...@yahoo.com>  ;
'Anita Abdullah' <mailto:a...@birzeit.edu>  ; 'Issa
<mailto:issa.sar...@gmail.com> Sarras'
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:35 PM
Subject: RE: What next?


OK so let's go for it. Rachel, Aim and myself will organize the evening in
TAU in terms of getting a room, permit, israeli speakers and contacts with
the students' organizations and then of PR within the university. Jenine -
or anyone else on the Palestinian side - would you be able to take care of
Palestinian speakers? I think it would be great if we could have two
speakers: one university president (Nabeel Kassis or Sari Nuseibah?) and one
person who is immediately affected by the Israeli policy. Could you do
something in that direction? Please let me know also about possible dates,
roughly. It'll have to be in the eveing - 18:00 to 20:00, at the campus of
Tel Aviv University. We'll cover travel expenses if we can raise the money -
we usually do.
Anat


  _____  


From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Dorothy
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:59 AM
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Cc: 'Sam Bahour'; 'Basil Ayish'; 'Jenin Shama'; 'Anita Abdullah'; 'Issa
Sarras'
Subject: Re: What next?


I'm all for Anat's idea. That would be great, and we can advertise to the
wider public, too.  We can pass the hat for funds (as has been done in the
past at Ha Campus lo Shotek affairs, and whatever is missing after, make up
from our own pockets.  Do you think that we could do this also at the U of
Haifa and U of Ben Gurion?  
Dorothy


----- Original Message -----
From: Anat  <mailto:m...@post.tau.ac.il> Matar
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Cc: 'Sam Bahour' <mailto:sbah...@palnet.com>  ; 'Basil Ayish'
<mailto:bay...@yahoo.com>  ; 'Jenin Shama' <mailto:j_sh...@yahoo.com>  ;
'Anita  <mailto:a...@birzeit.edu> Abdullah' ; 'Issa Sarras'
<mailto:issa.sar...@gmail.com>  
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:05 AM
Subject: RE: What next?


We can very easily organize an evening at the university. I actually think
we should do this - emphasising the difficulties to lecturers and students
in the OpT. If one of the Palestinian U presidents comes, that could be
great (Nusseibah?). Rooms cost something like 350 NIS, which is nothing - we
can pay this from our own pocket of course, or ask for donations during the
evening. If you all think we should go for this, let me know - Rachel and
myself are very experienced in organizing such evenings and the other
members of ICRR from TAU would help, and that's it. This would also be a way
of involoving the students' coalition which is a good thing in itself.
I hope I'll get some response later today from Rabinovitz' secretary.


No way Tsavta will give the hall for free.


What about an appeal to Yuli Tamir? And a meeting? I think I'm not ideal for
this (she's my colleague but I know I'm marked as insignificant radical),
but I do think that such a meeting could be significant - again, pressing
the point of the university stuff and students.


Anat


  _____  


From: icrr@googlegroups.com [mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Dorothy
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:01 AM
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Cc: Sam Bahour; Basil Ayish; Jenin Shama; Anita Abdullah; Issa Sarras
Subject: Re: What next?


1.  Mickey Fisher suggested a place in Ramat Aviv that we can probably have
for free.  It's located near the university, but seems to me not to be very
visible. Will send out details when I find out if we can have it for free.
I think that it is important for us to have an event also in Tel Aviv, and
perhaps also in Haifa and Be'er Sheba.  What do you think?  Wonder if Tsafta
would let us have one of its halls for free?  


2.  We need some source of financing if we want to expand our activities.
Any ideas?


3.  I wrote to Luisa Morgantini yesterday asking for a date for a meeting.
She will be here between the 27th-31st, if I remember correctly.  Have had
no response yet, although she earlier said that she would meet with us.  


4.  I personally think that we should not take the German embassy's reply to
Rachel as the final word.  We should nudge them again and again to meet with
us.  Meanwhile, we should also speak with the Finish and see what they are
doing about this in the name of the EU.  Israel wants to be a member of the
EU, so it does have some sort of leverage on Israel.


5.  Anat Matar has been in contact with people in the Knesset.  Maybe more
of us should be trying to convince additional MKs?  Does anyone of us have
friends among them?  


6.  I think that we do need to meet to see where we are going and how.  2 of
our main players--Jacob and Ruchama--are abroad now.  But members will
always be abroad.  Also, many more persons have joined the committee.
Should we have a general meeting inviting everyone (I think that there are
now about 30 names)?  


7. I received a list of over 500 names of foreign media in an excel-file.
Yesterday I managed to get about 250 of them into a form that is usable for
emailing, and sent out our press release to them.  I'll try to complete the
list today, and will gladly forward to anyone who will take upon him/herself
future press releases.  


Dorothy


----- Original Message -----
From: Judith Harel <mailto:y_har...@netvision.net.il>  
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Cc: Sam Bahour <mailto:sbah...@palnet.com>  ; Basil Ayish
<mailto:bay...@yahoo.com>  ; Jenin Shama <mailto:j_sh...@yahoo.com>  ; Anita
<mailto:a...@birzeit.edu> Abdullah
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:21 AM
Subject: What next?


Dear All,
1. Sorry for being a nudnik but I'd like to get a clear picture of what our
plans are:
- Do we have any meetinigs scheduled for visiting embassies?
- Which officials in the Israeli establishmnet did we approach?
- Did we get any answers for any of the meetings requested?
- Did we come up with any new ideas for additional activities?


2. A suggestion: building on Aloni's suggestion - let us try to make a big
collage of enlarged photos of disrupted families - once we have the collage
we can:
- make a series of postcards and start mailing them all over the world
- make a big one and demonstrate with it in front pf the interior ministry


3. Division of labour among is:
It seems that Dorrothy is very busy - receiving dailiy about 1800 emails -
so we need to help her and relieve her from the duty to coordinate the
activities of this group. We need someone to keep his/her/thum on what's
going on, informing us and handing out tasks to do etc.


4. Public event in TA
We need to organize a bigger public event in TA  - suggestions for  location
- speakers?


5. What else could we do?
Best,
J


----- Original Message -----
From: Judith Harel <mailto:y_har...@netvision.net.il>  
To: icrr@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


Dear All,
I would love to but I can't because of my work.
Sorry,
Yehudith


----- Original Message -----
From: Dorothy <mailto:dor_n...@netvision.net.il>  
To: ICRR <mailto:icrr@googlegroups.com>  
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:57 AM
Subject: interview Thursday somewhere between 8-8:30 AM


Hi all, Israel is going to be interviewed on Kol Hashalom radio (107.2 FM)
tomorrow morning somewhere between 8:00-8:30 AM, in case you would like to
listen.


Please let me know if you are willing to be interviewed or to speak or
appear on TV, or whatever, just in case we have more requests.


Dorothy


Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
at the Tel-Aviv University CC.


Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System
at the Tel-Aviv University CC.


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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at the Tel-Aviv University CC.

 

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Date:  Thurs, Oct 26 2006 11:13 pm 
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Hi Rima,
I suspect that some (though not many) on our still small list of members also have not been activists in past. But even for those of us that have been, this is a new issue that we have to study and think about how best to deal with it.  It won't be the last challenge that we have on the way to justice and freedom for all.  But it's a tough one, and won't be easier with Liebermann in the govmt.
Best, Dorothy


Dorothy

 


 

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